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For all those Gentoo developers and readers out there, I'd like the answer to a perception question. Without looking at any data source, do you know roughly how many active (non-retired) developers there are? Do you know where they are distributed around the world?

We presently have 319 developers that are not marked as retired. I hear that Developer Relations have a pile of folks to mark as slackers, so this number will appear lower soon, but more accurately reflect how many developers in the distribution.

Here's the summary of the breakdown:

103.13%South and Central America
113.45%Unknown
268.15%Africa, Asia, Australia
309.40%United Kingdom
10031.35%North America
14244.51%Europe
319100.0%Total
I have more detailed results online here. Surprising bits include the number of developers in Germany (more than the combined total of the 2nd and 3rd entries), as well as the bug concentration in California.

Here is a breakdown by group groups of timezones, but it's made moot by the point that some people are normally early-morning people, while others are night-owls:

113.45%Unknown
257.84%Asia, Australia
11034.48%North, South and Central America
17354.23%Europe, United Kingdom, Africa
319100.0%Total

Source data that I based this data was originally LDAP, partially processed and made available here.

Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-13 11:47 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
or did I miss something?

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-13 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Nah, as everyone knows it likes to be the little doggie of the USA. ;)

The number of devs coming from the UK is more impressive than the one coming form Germany, given that the UK has less than 75% the population. Benefit of the native language or yet another sign of the age pyramid in Germany!? Well, I'd say the absolute numbers are just too low to deduce anything.

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-13 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robbat2.livejournal.com
UK: 60.6M people, 245K Sq Km.
Germany: 82.4M people, 357K Sq Km.

I'll give you a breakdown inside Germany as well if somebody can help me with that data.

Also, I considered it separate in that last I checked a lot of Britons didn't like being a member of the EU, hence still being stuck on their own currency.

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-14 12:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
> I'll give you a breakdown inside Germany as well if somebody can help me with that data.

While there are of course cultural differences between the german states/regions, I doubt anyone cares really.

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-14 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robbat2.livejournal.com
Compare that to the Scots and Welsh, who strongly assert they aren't English (as in of England).

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-13 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
btw.: Even more funny is, that the UK has its list own entry, but the Channel Islands are subsumed under Europe.

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-13 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robbat2.livejournal.com
The Channel Islands are NOT part of the United Kingdom.
See Wikipedia on the matter: British Isles (terminology).

The Venn Diagram:

Red = Geographical location
Blue = Political entity

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-14 12:46 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Nice diagram - but the citizenship is british and the isles are bound to the UK and they're not part of the EU (that's what I understand under Europe nowadays).

I consider these miniscule "nations" (Andorra, Luxemburg, Liechtenstein, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican) a pita wrt. the european integration - now I have to learn there is one more I had not on the list. :(


Back to your diagram: Why is the crown dependency Isle of Man part of the British Isles, but the Channel Islands aren't? Just because of the geography?

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-14 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robbat2.livejournal.com
The Venn diagram came from Wikipedia. Look at the page I linked. It's because of their heritage with the Duchy of Normandy.

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-14 01:08 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
So the Queen likes to be called Duke Elisabeth by her subjects or what? Speak about historic ballast... *sigh*

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-14 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robbat2.livejournal.com
Digging further I could say the "British Islands" to include the Channel Islands with the rest of the British Isles, but it only makes the difference of a single developer (it used to make a bigger difference, but those others have retired).

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2010-03-18 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digger2315.livejournal.com
Looks like the Euler diagram (not Venn diagram) has been updated or corrected to include the Channel Islands within the British Isles.

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Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-13 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robbat2.livejournal.com
Nah, I think you can sink their islands and the rest of Europe wouldn't really care.

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-03-19 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Of course it's part of Europe :) robbat2 is just trying to wind us up. It's also part of the EU.

UK doesn't have the Euro - but then we're not alone in that (out of 27 EU member countries, 13 have the Euro as their national currency - although by population those 13 do make a significant majority; about 2/3rds). http://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance/euro/our_currency_en.htm. There are also European countries which are not part of the European Union (Norway, Switzerland, the Balkan states).

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-07-17 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Of course it's part of Europe :) robbat2 is just trying to wind us up. It's also part of the EU.

UK doesn't have the Euro - but then we're not alone in that (out of 27 EU member countries, 13 have the Euro as their national currency - although by population those 13 do make a significant majority; about 2/3rds). forex currency trading system (http://www.squidoo.com/forexcurrencytradingsystemhowto) does always benefit from other European countries which are not part of the European Union (Norway, Switzerland, the Balkan states).

Re: Isn't the UK a part of Europe?

Date: 2007-07-17 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robbat2.livejournal.com
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