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Recently I've been digging around in the annuls of Gentoo history, working on what will hopefully be the final tree-signing proposal before it actually becomes a full reality. During the midst of this, Stuart came up to me in #gentoo-dev:

<Stuart> robbat2: btw, did you see this week's LWN?
<Stuart> robbat2: the one of using Google Code to find PHP apps that are vulnerable to allow_url_fopen attacks
<Stuart> robbat2: you were right, all those years ago. just wanted to tell you that.

I wasn't the first to come up with the idea, the BSD ports folk were talking about it around the same time we were in mid-July 2003, and I was aware of their discussion, but I believe that Gentoo was the first Linux distribution to make this jump in turning it off. I took a lot of flak at the time for breaking many PHP applications in the name of security, but history has now shown that allow_url_fopen is a very common PHP exploit, and with the advent of Google Code, many sites may now considerably more vulnerable - and all of this could have been mostly avoided a long time ago if PHP had just included a taint mode from the start...

I hadn't read LWN yet, it's only been out a few hours, yet here the article is: "Remote file inclusion vulnerabilities". Stuart also posted a link back into the murky depths of the Gentoo CVS, with a commit I made in July 2003, that turned off allow_url_fopen by default in Gentoo.

Study in Scarlet

Date: 2006-10-12 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
For interest, perhaps the earliest significant warning was back in 2001 - http://blackhatnetworks.com/html/bh-asia-01/bh-asia-01-speakers.html#Shaun%20Clowes

The talk became the "Study in Scarlet" - http://www.securereality.com.au/studyinscarlet.txt

Near the end "11. Responsibility - Language Vs Programmer" is worth re-reading.

(5 years later) This is finally going to get solved once and for all with PHP 6 - the splitting of allow_url_fopen and allow_url_include - the latter will control remote code inclusion while the former will be limited to "non-eval" file functions like file_get_contents(), which is the reason many people currently leave this setting switched on, despite the known security risks. Some remarks about this here: http://shiflett.org/archive/242

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